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SporgyTheMenace
The fool always gets the last laugh

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I'm not an expert, but as I understand christian mythology, Satan is the ultimate rebel. (Because: What bigger power could one rebel against than against the source of all creation?)

Satan is basically 'Hyper James Dean'. ;)

The ultimate rebel? More the ultimate loser, he didn’t even put up a good fight in the Bible and if I can remember, the Devil was a very minor figure in the Bible. It wasn't until 1667 when English poet Jame Milton romanticizes the Devil as Lucifer to be some sort of rebel. I still fail to understand why people fear and why some people idolize him, at least choose a rebel who's an actual badass, put up a good fight, won at the end, and is noble. Like Sun Wukong the Buddha Who Can Win in Every Fight.

I do not hold any strong opinions in that regard. It's just how it seems to present itself to me.

I view that from a more 'practical angle', if you will: The bible has seen multiple edits at this point and interpretation of religious texts to turn the "word of god" into something that is indistinguishable from the speaker's own views and biases has become the norm to the point that certain religious people seem to believe 'what _they_ believe' to be the fundamental truth of their religion, rather than the words 'as written'. Given that situation, the source material doesn't matter so much and the "agreed upon" fanfiction becomes canon.

Put simply: I think having an 'antagonist' suited the fan base's tastes better. Shifting the blame ("The devil made me do it!") was more convenient than having to be accountable for your own mistakes. And in order to be convincing, Satan has to be devilishly handsome, fiendishly suave, and all that stuff. The antagonist also had to look more powerful in order for god to not come off as a bully. There are probably better interpretations from people who really look into how that phenomenon developed, but 'knowing people' I'd say it's about biging up an antagonist.

Case in point: before finishing this comment I got the chance to ask an adult christian "What do you remember about the devil from the bible?" Their reply: "That's the evil and all that stuff..." (Both sentences were localized into English.)
So yeah: I would claim that by doing 'some' research you are already more of an expert on the matter than the people who "believe" in that stuff. But that doesn't mean they will 'correct' their belief if you inform them about what is is supposed to be. If people think the devil is a person in a suit like it was was depicted in the latest Hollywood movie, then that's what "the devil" is to them.

I'm more of a 'modern' franchises person myself. ;) 'Star Trek - Strange New Worlds' was pretty good.

Ok dial it back, I made this post to poke fun at those new-age Puritans. The kind of "Christians" that hate fun, thinks Halloween is satanic because something, would choose to listen to a former Satanist or a Mega Chruch than an actual Christian scholar, fears demons, and misunderstands the principles and history of Christianity. Liks these jackasses fail to understand that the Adam and Eve story is allegorical, since historically, many Christian scholars and figures have concluded that the story is allegorical.

My point is that the Devil is a loser and anyone who fears or worships him is a bigger loser. Live your live in fear and distrust, yeah that's definitely what Jesus taught you.

Im happy to throw away my copy of the holy bible in the trashcan. Im an christian with my parents are christians, being in fear about everything, spanking for disobeying the household rules, conflicted for praying to jesus and god loves me.

My head hurts for just talking about my former christianity life. I dont care if god will never forgive me for throwing my bible. I just done seeing the abuse within my family and myself with spanking and the yelling at the fights. IM done being christian done.

Throwing away a Bible is not a sin, and your family sound like heretics(meaning that they are the biggest sinners), living life like you're walking on egg shells and being punished for having fun is not what Jesus taught.

That's all I have to say. I'm not Christian and I don't come from a Christian family

@SporgyTheMenace yeah thats my christian life in a nutshell dude, not having fun is what jesus told me. being fear and always be in God's Home. but my family being heretics? my dad was the biggest heretic and christian telling me to pray to jesus, after he was done yelling about how awful his life is, even blames mom for spending money,

Who told you that? Not Jesus. So really, what you're taught is not what Jesus taught, what you've been taught is heresy.

Heretics are defined as people who claim to be Christian but follow un-Christian practices. So technically your family are heretics but your dad sounds like the biggest heretic and the biggest sinner.

@SporgyTheMenace im really confused by your comment. My dad is a heretic, mom and my brothers are ummm. stockholm syndrome with our mentally sick dad.

@SporgyTheMenace No one told me that. im starting to lose right after you said my family are heretics to christianity. SporgytheMenace

@SporgyTheMenace I been chritianisty all my life, baptized at the holy spirit bath, But Not jesus? I thought you are not christian? Im gonna have to sleep this one

I may not Christian, but I know a heathen when I see one.